Tullycraft in a television commercial?
It was brought to my attention a little over a week ago that the Tullycraft song "Sweet" was being used in a television commercial for Wienerschnitzel. I found this very shocking because I knew nothing about these ads. We hadn't been contacted by Wienerschnitzel or any agency representing them. After a little research, it was discovered that the record label that had re-issued our first album "Old Traditions, New Standards" had licensed the song without asking our permission or even contacting us about it. Ultimately, I guess this is my fault. When HARRIET RECORDS went under and we were approached about re-issuing "Old Traditions, New Standards," I thought... "sure!" I didn't anticipate being told: "Read your contract. We don't have to ask your permission to license your songs." I guess I thought that the indie world was different somehow. I assumed that we didn't practice business like the ugly major labels. More than anything, I hate being disappointed by people who I thought were my friends. - Sean
posted by Sean at 9:17 AM
18 Comments:
shit, man. this happens all to often.
it reminded me of this: http://www.onmilwaukee.com/music/soundcheck/articles/femmeschili2.html
this totally sucks. i'm so angry right now! maybe look at it this way, it's great fodder for one of you 'orange cake mix' type songs!
one might expect this from a fake indie like sub pop but damn!
that is pretty messed up. i've heard bad things about darla in the past, but this is awful....
Life is full of disappointment.
How much money did you guys get?
Did you get free wieners?
Do you not control the publishing rights to the song? They had to license the publishing synch rights, not just the master recording...
this is great news!!
LETS HAVE A COOKOUT!
Kinda reminds me of what happened to Cracker, only different:
Band Cracker Gives Virgin Records the Finger
next time don't sign a contract you didn't read. and don't expect anyone to feel sorry for you for doing so.
It’s true, I didn’t anticipate Wienerschnitzel would want to use a Tullycraft song to sell hotdogs. I was just excited by the idea of keeping “Old Taditons, New Standards” in print. But I also didn’t anticipate being treated so awful by Darla – especially considering how many records we’ve sold for them over the years. This experience has been extremely frustrating and disappointing – and you’re right it’s my fault for trusting people who I thought were friends. - Sean
Darla has always had the bottom line on their agenda.
But you know what, good for them for making the 5 figures they probably got for the licensing deal.
Never trust anyone in the "industry", no matter how indie they seem. That's obvious to anyone and it should be to a band like Tullycraft whose members have been playing music for over a decade.
the thing really sucks is that Tullycraft will be the "hot dog" band from now on.
Just like Of Montreal is the Outback steakhouse band...but at least Of Montreal probably were able to put a down payment on a house from their licensing deal
The difference is, Of Montreal willingly sold-out, and given the choice Tullycraft wouldn’t have. We’ve been offered other deals (on music Darla doesn’t have their claws in) and we’ve passed on them.
We understand the difference and it sucks for you guys to be known as "that Wienerschnitzel band", suffering that embarrassment and not being able to afford to buy a new van with blackened windows. While Darla just bought a brand new tricked out Hummer.
i have to stand up for of montreal a bit here. they sold their song for way less than they should have, but they sold it to buy stuff for the band to tour with. some call what they did selling out, but at the same time they are very kind to indie labels, and do a lot for bands that aren't as big as they are. when they played popfest in 05, they did it for next to nothing out of friendship and wanting to play the show. their night sold out, and actually helped us to break even on the festival that year. at the same time i bet they figured that outback would use the song for a little bit and drop it, i'm sure they had no idea it would be altered to fit every holiday. it sucks that they now live with the outback stigma, but i doubt tullycraft will be the hotdog band, like most commercials they have a short shelf life. it's just a shame they get nothing from the commercial though. mike
Are we going to hear "Hotdogs your new boyfriend is too stupid to know about" in the future?
Descendents - "WEINERSCHNITZEL"
Welcome to Der Weinerschnitzel
May I take your order please?
Yeah, I want:
Two large Cokes, Two large fries
Chili-cheese dog, large Doctor Pepper
Super deluxe, with cheese and tomato
you want Bill sperm with that?
NO!
i do agree that this is messed up and unfortunate, and mostly i can totally see how you would never expect something like it to happen. the only thing i don't agree about is the idea that it's particularly unfortunate that is a hot dog. ad. after hearing the magnetic fields every morning while watching Dawson's helping to advertise Caesar's dog food, i say, at least hot dogs are (ostensibly) for humans. you are a step up from the magnetic fields.
my Gosh, this really stinks! "Sweet" is such a sweet song and hot dogs don't deserve it! They're not even sweet, they're savory for goodness sakes! I say, "sue them"! You may quote me.
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